tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30500538.post4774806570732471757..comments2008-12-16T13:30:23.143-06:00Patrick Parkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04471858995477729220noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30500538.post-23575497461533853242008-12-16T13:30:00.000-06:002008-12-16T13:30:00.000-06:00Whoops, I was signed in as my half-wife Sarah, Acu-healthcareScotthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04771944484286659825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30500538.post-29301695514809132632008-12-16T13:28:00.000-06:002008-12-16T13:28:00.000-06:00I think it depends on what culture you are coming from or "mixing in."<BR/>The Japanese notion of art is: a medium that expresses a reciprocal relationship with nature--a nature which is profoundly animated and divine or otherworldly. <BR/><BR/>Abstraction suggests an outside "agent," which is a problematic notion for many Asian and animist cultures.Acupuncture Healthcarehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14187609832275166732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30500538.post-8566685476978210352008-12-12T09:34:00.000-06:002008-12-12T09:34:00.000-06:00Come on, Charles! you're teasing me. You can't just say, 'There's more to it than that.' and not tell me more of what you think.<BR/><BR/>What is it that makes a martial art into an artform?Patrick Parkerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04471858995477729220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30500538.post-6017922371514152912008-12-10T13:40:00.000-06:002008-12-10T13:40:00.000-06:00Interesting viewpoint yet I still feel that this one only skims the surface of what constitutes an art in the martial arts.<BR/><BR/>A very complex issue that is derived from those who practice an art form be it Koryu or simply flower arrangement.<BR/><BR/>There are aspects that go beyond what you describe.<BR/><BR/>Very interesting all the same and worth diligent contemplation.Charles Jameshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13812618556413423872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30500538.post-47724649435321750482008-12-10T10:36:00.000-06:002008-12-10T10:36:00.000-06:00Ah, my friend- I think you are coming close to the answer of "what makes a martial ART?"<BR/>- That is why MMA (A?) can not be an ART. There is no sense of abstract. I really like your analogy. For me, the solo Tai Chi Chuan form (and Bagua) is ART, it is about internal FEELING, and is an abstract representation of a fight as well as mimicking nature (wave hands like clouds...).<BR/> Combat brings necessary pain, Art necessarily brings pleasure.Dojo Rathttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12057645566330892415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30500538.post-5874991497396008292008-12-09T15:23:00.000-06:002008-12-09T15:23:00.000-06:00The human eye is no more perceptive than a decent camera. The boundaries of our attention are functionally equivalent to the borders around a painting. What then is not art? What is "realistic"?<BR/><BR/><B>Reality is fiat.</B>Chris | Martial Developmenthttp://www.martialdevelopment.com/blog/noreply@blogger.com